Episode 12 - Interview with chiropractor and doula Dr. Tijana Sefic Eby (Part 1/2)

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Hello, hello aligned birth podcast listeners Dr. Shannon here today, and today is interview day one of my favorite days. And I'm so excited to have Dr. Tiana stick with us today. And she is a fellow chiropractor. So this is fun because I'm a chiropractor, she's chiropractor, and we're going to talk about all things health and wellness, but in that chiropractic lens today too, and then relating it to the birth worker world as well. So she has an overall wellness advocate. So she's passionate about providing gentle, effective supportive care for women, children and families. She's Webster certified. So we've talked about this in the episodes before with chiropractic care, really looking at and focusing on having that specialized training and working with Pregnant Patients. But she also has dti certified birth and postpartum doula and childbirth education aspect to what she offers in her office as well. And in addition to that, she does nutritional work has natural handmade products, safer personal care products in her office. So she has a wealth of knowledge. And I'm so excited to have her here today to share that knowledge now she practices locally. So she's in the Marietta area at healthy being wellness. And so today, we're we're gonna have a lot to talk about, because when she and I get together, we can just talk and talk and talk. So we I'm going to split this into two episodes, it's going to be a fun two part series. So today, part one we're really going to go into how she chiropractor Why is she a chiropractor? How does she do the doula work with it? What does it look like working with her? What impact can we have in that birth worker world, and then really meshing to the motherhood, work life family balance, because she's a mom as well. So I really want to dive deep into that. And then the next part, I want to go into her birth story and how that has really shaped and impacted her office and how she practices as well. So Hello, Dr. Tiana, I'm so excited. You're here today. Hi, Dr. Shannon, I'm excited to be here. Yay. I know, I know, we're gonna have to keep ourselves in control. Because like I said, when we get together, we love to talk and talk and talk. So. And there's some questions that I have on here that I don't even think I know, which I'm kind of excited about, you know, you get to those friendships were like, wait a minute, I don't even know. I don't even know this part about you. So let's, I'm excited to dive into those questions. But all right, let's do it. I know. So why are you a chiropractor.

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Okay, so I started out as a patient, which is probably the case for most chiropractors. And I went from a patient to actually being a chiropractic assistant to a local chiropractor in watkinsville, which is where my parents still go, almost 20 years later. And I worked with Dr. Jeff Davenport and loved it. I worked with him for four and a half years. And it really made an impression on me to see people be like really excited about coming be like, they always came in smiling, they felt really good while they were there getting adjusted, and then they're left smiling. And I just love being part of that energy. So after a few years of working with him, I was like, hey, I want to do this, like I want to do this.

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And one of the things they also inspired me was kind of observing my mom,

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and other women that were you know, coming to the office and just other women in my life who

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I started to notice that it was really like women just didn't get that much support.

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There's,

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I'm not even sure like, Why just seemed like doctors weren't listening to their complaints. A lot of times things were written off as,

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like, oh, you're just kind of imagining that or that's in your head and things like that. And I kind of took like, personal offense to that. Because

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I mean,

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like, it can't all be in your head. I mean, um, so when I start when I was in school, I just kind of gravitated towards working with women and pregnancy and babies and things like that. And it just seemed like it was kind of

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a transition that made really a lot of sense to me. And, and I was really willing to listen to these women and like their stories and you know what was going on? So that's so that's such a big part of what we do is the listening aspect of things. Yeah. And that's what we hear a lot of too is that women don't feel heard or listened to. Yeah, right. And sometimes it's just a matter of like, how

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Having somebody who's listening and validating what they're going through, even if you're not necessarily like, fixing something per se, exactly. Like I hear you, I see you, you know, some Yeah, that goes very far away. Yeah. So that's kind of, um, that's kind of what inspired me and how I kind of started on my trajectory, you know, in this world. So, now, you said, your parents were going to the chiropractor, though, right? So they started and so you started working for that one. So what brought them or started them in that realm of things. So actually, it was my mom and my sister that started first My sister was playing volleyball. So she was hitting the ground a lot. And she was in high school. I had just finished high school. So

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they started first, and my mom had had, like, back issues off and on, she had some scoliosis, and

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it was just kind of like she had wanted to explore it for a while. And then they just kind of made that transition to that. And I think I was, I was, I think it was my freshman year in college at UGA. And

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my dad and I were like, on winter break or something like that. And

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my dad's like, why don't we go like they're talking about how good they feel? Why don't we do? Why you guys live?

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Yeah, so my dad was like, Well, I'm gonna go, you want to come with me? And I was like, Yeah, let's do it.

Unknown 6:39

Okay, well, I mean, that's fun to hear. And I remember being in school to fun side, notice that we both went to life, but we were at two different time periods. So because you're coming up on what, 10 years in practice, yes, 10 years of practice. This is amazing. All those lives that we get impacted. I love this. But there were people in school, I remember that, like, had never been adjusted before. They were in chiropractic school. So that was always interesting to me to know why, you know, it's so important, I think, to kind of see those results, and then experience those results, too, I think. Yeah. But it's, I mean, I always thought that was interesting. That was in for a while, like when I was working as a chiropractic assistant. I mean, like, my favorite part was like, I would get adjusted first thing in the morning, and

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this is

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well, and it was one of those things where it was like when people said that they've never been adjusted. I'm like,

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Yeah, like, really? Like, there's still people walking around. I've never been adjusted. I mean, you know, we know the reality of that. Well, yes.

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We know how it feels. I know. And it's like, the potential that you have. I love it right now. So when you graduated, what, tell me how the doula aspect of this came in? Or am I jumping too far ahead into your? No story? No, not at all. Um, so I actually, I started my doula training in, like, at the,

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in the fall of,

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like, hold on, let me do the math 2014. So I had graduated in 2011. So I was a few years into it. And really, it was, just because I was seeing a lot of pregnant moms, and you know, moms or babies and things like that.

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It was just kind of a natural transition. Because I like we were talking about it all the time, you know, just talking about it all the time. And I had a mom earlier that year, who had taken care of her through most of her pregnancy, and she was actually referred to me by a friend of mine, who's also a chiropractor. She just doesn't really do a lot of pregnancy. She's a sports car. And

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so I was taking care of her. And she's like, I just really kind of wish that, like I could take you in a delivery room with me. And

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it really I mean, I kind of didn't know, then what I know now type of thing. But it really made me think I was like how are we kind of a cool thing to add. So later that later that fall, I had an opportunity to join a dual program. And

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I figured like, Okay, if I'm going to do this, like let me get certified and everything and so it was about a nine month program

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with doula training is international and they're still like an ongoing organization. And so I'm both birth and postpartum certified. And

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it was so actually when I became a doula, I was not a mom. So that was that.

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I love that.

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It's, uh, you know, it gave me such a unique perspective at the time.

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That has definitely changed since some.

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Because, you know, that's, that's just what happens. But yeah, I mean, my practice at the time was a little bit slower than what it is now. And I was kind of able to mesh things together and a lot

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like most of my clients, most of my new clients who are also my, like chiropractic patients, so we already had like, an ongoing relationship and all of that, and so translated really smoothly into a, you know, the birth setting. And I love it. I mean, I love attending births. It's definitely super fun. It can be a little long. I was gonna say, cuz I know in the doula world, or even the

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the midwifery world in that it's hard on is the sustainability of it of the doulas and midwives, it's hard. So because that it's labor so unpredictable, and how long it can take and trying to schedule things, you know. So that's Yeah. And back, back, when I first started, and what I was seeing, like, when I was taking a lot of doula clients,

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it was definitely like, my practice wasn't quite as busy. And so it was kind of a great addition, both income wise, and like, I could fit it in my schedule.

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Right now, things are a little bit different. So since

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since I've had my son, you know, like, things are just different, because,

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you know, I need to be at home more, and I need to be, you know, accessible to my family more.

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And so right now, I do still take birth clients and postpartum clients.

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But I do more like virtual support. So

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which has actually worked. I mean, it kind of started in a pandemic.

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And you know, the dumpster fire that was 2020. Right. So, you know, you couldn't go to a hospital. So it kind of was like an unintentional thing that happened.

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That now I've like, been exploring more, because it can work more with my lifestyle. So

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that's what

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I was gonna say, and I don't know, like, right now I'm feeling comfortable, like offering virtual dual support.

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And like, I've done it for I've done it for clients who are local to Atlanta.

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And so that's worked out pretty good. And then we've done some in person stuff, you know, around it.

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But we'll kind of see where it's progressed from here. I mean, that Yeah, isn't that what we've seen all doulas have to do just kind of shift and change. But I think that's such a neat aspect that you can add because even if it's not that full blown doula work, and Rachel and I have talked about this to my co hosts, because, you know, she's a mom to two young boys. And that doula world can be difficult. So it's like, you know, having that backup, or all of those other little things that go to it, go or go with it. But you can still have that knowledge and impart a lot of that on your clients and patients that come in. So I think that's such a cool aspect that you add to your knowledge base, you know, and then even in the childbirth education aspect, too. So you're probably going really, really in depth with these women that are coming in, as you're listening to them. And validate. Yeah, yes. Yeah. And we definitely, we definitely do. And I mean, the education piece to be, you know, my work has always been like one of my favorite things.

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Because that's really, you know,

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as a doctor, you're a teacher kind of thing. Exactly. You're a teacher, first and foremost. And I really like I feel like I've really kind of embrace that I've really embraced that role in serving the population that I do. So. Yeah, no, and that population needs the embracing, honestly. Yes.

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Especially, you know, in looking at those, like maternal mortality rates, and all of those things, especially in Georgia, and some of these southeastern states and that sort of thing, but, yes, you know, what do you I been asked this before, and I really I kind of like these things. I'm like, What do you wish people knew because I'd like to talk to you too, a little bit about because listeners hear me talk about chiropractic care, but I would really love to hear it to have like Webster technique and certification and adjustments and what that can do and help and what you see come in the office

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And what you wish people knew about what you did. So I'd love to hear some of your thoughts on on that.

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Well, um,

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I mean, I feel so Okay, so one of my patients that I have right now who's pregnant, she went to see one of her midwives last week. And

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the same day or the next day came and saw me and we've, she's been under care with me for a few months already. And her midwife was kind of talking about the baby's positioning, and the mom had complained about some, you know, hip pain and things like that. And

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the midwife said, She's an midwifery practice at a hospital.

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And she said, Well, you know, once we get to, like, 32 weeks or so, we want to make sure the baby's in a good position. And, you know, if this pain can, you know, stays consistent. You know, we'll get to central characters office, and you know, that, and the mom goes, whoa, actually, like, I've already been under chiropractic care, I was just like, telling you like, like, this is what I'm experiencing. And I kind of, I realized that like, this, even other providers don't necessarily realize how much we can help support moms during pregnancy. Or really your

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pre age girl. That was what I was gonna say preaching. Yeah, yeah. So you know, wait until it's like debilitating low back pain, or Oh, just suffer through this. And then when you get little further on, whoa, it No, no, no, no. Right. So really, like, what I love to see my practice is moms who are pregnant, like super early on. And for for moms have been pregnant previously, and I either took care of them, or, you know, I love getting the messages. They're like, hey, by the way, I mean, I don't know about you. But I end up finding out that moms are pregnant before, like, sometimes even their partners. I just had that the other day. And I was like, This is like the highlight of my job. Because I'm like, I know before everyone else. I don't know why they do it.

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But that's like my favorite like when you know we can when I can work with a mom. And he also when I can work with a mom who is trying to get pregnant. Yeah, so like, right now I have a mom who is going through the IVF process. And I've actually, I've actually not had anybody that's gone through the process.

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Like, while they weren't under care, I've had moms who've had IVF. And then I saw them afterwards or like, while they were pregnant, but not, not throughout the whole process. So it's been really great because I've been able to kind of support her through the process, and we've done different things for that.

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But I really love taking care of moms like really early on, so that by the time you know, third trimester hits, like, they're not feeling horrible. Like they're not you know, feeling miserable about the pregnancy and all that because that's just like it kind of gives them a different look on life and pregnancy because they're not just like hating every day kind of thing. I know. I know. That's and that's that's my biggest thing too because I know personally I was not adjusted my whole life so I wasn't adjusted until I was 36 weeks pregnant with my second and you remember being like wow, this would have been nice you know type of thing now shoulda coulda woulda I talked.

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I talked about that with the moms and I write the blogs just because I you know, you want people to know that you don't have to wait to be in pain to come in because there's so much benefit that you can get from being adjusted. I mean, even when we're just looking to sell like healthy Nervous System aspect of things, let alone a balanced, you know, pelvis and sacrum, so, right, exactly. And, and, I mean, that's really kind of my goal is like really to help people shift that mindset of a healthy lifestyle and chiropractic just being a staple in that

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as the same way we talk about, you know, nutrition and hydration and exercise and movement and all that kind of stuff, like making, making the actual current, you know, chiropractic part, just see under that same umbrella, an exam. And so that's really kind of my biggest goals is to be associated with that whole lifestyle.

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And the other end, the other thing is, you know, a lot of moms will come during pregnancy because of the you know, what they're experiencing, and also like, not to drop off postpartum because that's the other piece that sometimes happens. I know. I know. I'm feeling and I know

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And I get it. And this is going to be a good segue into something else I wanted to talk about with, you know how we take care of ourselves. But oh, like you can't forget about yourself, Mama. Like, I know you just had a baby and I get it. We You know, we've been there. But it's it's that whole aspect. You can't pour from an indie copy, gotta fill your cup up. And I really do think that, that postpartum chiropractic care can make a huge difference. Huge difference. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Actually, one of the things that I do for my postpartum moms is like the first month or so like once they started coming back when I scheduled them in my system. I scheduled them for longer visit. Yep. And so we sit down, and I do it for like the first month or, you know, whatever, once they start coming back, because I want to talk to him about how breastfeeding is going, I want and I kind of put a little bit of my postpartum doula hat on. Yeah, we talked about the latching and the poops, and you know, what sleep looks like. And I mean, a lot of times, like, I'll help Mom, I'll help moms and dads

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put on, you know, like, figure out how to babywear or, you know, tips and tricks on things and all that. So

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I kind of make, I kind of make those first few weeks of their postpartum visits,

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kind of a combo of chiropractic and postpartum doula work, so that they get a little bit more support out of it. Because then they're more likely to kind of get back into taking care of themselves when they know that like, Okay, I'm not just going to get adjusted, or just get my baby adjusted, I'm going and I know, like, I'll get more out of the visit to. And that's so true. Because, you know, you're checking in on mom as well, because then everybody's like, oh, how's the baby? How's the baby sleeping? And it's all about the baby. And so now you're able to sit down and say, Okay, we're gonna talk about the baby, we can take care of some of these issues, too, we can get baby adjusted, but also, how are you doing, you know what you build that time in there. And, you know, something that Rachel has mentioned before, and some other episodes, and I guess I hadn't really thought about it either, is that you and I have such unique aspect of being in touch with these postpartum women very early on in the postpartum period. And continuously, you know, we do have that potential for that, you know, rather than a lot of times, you're just having maybe one or two postpartum visits, and then, you know, signed off and released, you're good to go. Whereas I think we have a little bit of unique aspect and being able to check in and make sure everything is going fine. And we're hand Yes, well, yeah. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. So that's been I mean, those are kind of the things that I like to see a lot and

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where I like to put my focus on, so we can kind of, you know, lend a helping hand in a way.

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While they're, you know, while the moms are going through that timeframe. I know. And I love that. And so we,

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I don't know, I still refer to myself as being postpartum. Just give just because I have an 11 year old, an eight year old, I will forever be postpartum, because my body changed my mind. Everything's changed, right? But yeah, so I still look at that as like taking care of ourselves. And so I don't know if you get asked this in the office, but I do. Because every once in a while, be like, I do need an adjustment. And people are like, Oh, wait a minute, I thought about that, like,

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don't get adjusted. I'm like, I can't do this

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every day, and like, still survive, because it's hard on the body like on the carport. So, um, I know a big aspect for me, and I hope for so for you too, is that you? And I check in with each other quite a bit. Oh, yeah, get adjusted. So we just each other? We do we do. And man, I love adjustment days, I'll tell you that.

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I really do. And I love and I mean, I know you've been in my practice before where like, you know, I was in between patients. And I'm like, Hey, guys, this is my chiropractor.

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And, and I kind of love telling my patients that too. Because every once in a while I will have somebody go like, and like you're really busy today. Like,

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like, what are you doing? And I'm like, Oh, no, I get adjusted, trust me. And if I like have to miss a week.

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I feel that because it is I mean our work is like very physical and

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and you know, for a long time I was like you know, but I'm like I don't sit in a desk chair all day kind of thing. But we are like our work is physical and so it's important to take care of ourselves.

Unknown 25:00

That way and yeah, like, getting adjusted is just just a huge part of that is, and I've had patients ask me before they're like, like, can you adjust yourself? And I was like, No, like, No, no, that's not that's not how that works. And like, I didn't happen to marry a chiropractor's. So think, again, do it at home, I go see Dr. Shannon and like, I make, you know, like, I make the time to do that and take care of myself. And

Unknown 25:32

yeah, and that's definitely, definitely a huge piece of it.

Unknown 25:38

Because, you know, because we are one thing I was gonna mention what you said earlier about, you know, still feeling like you're postpartum. Any woman that I have taken care of, in my practice, who has had a child, regardless whether their child is days old, or like several decades, like many are still postpartum. I have a mom who's in her 60s. And she's like, no, her kids are in there. I think her youngest is like in his mid 20s. And I was like, Yes. still counts still. Yes, yeah.

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Because, you know, as moms, there's a lot of demands. There's a lot of physical and emotional mental demands on us. And it doesn't matter how old your kid is, as a mom.

Unknown 26:23

Exactly. Exactly. Now, yeah, it's so true. And I think it's important to honor that, but I think it's important to I try to tell people like,

Unknown 26:32

um, I mean, I feel like you and I, we practice what we preach, I'm not telling you to come in and do this, or do these, these these things, if I'm not willing to do it myself, or put in the work myself, too. You know, and so I think sometimes, too, I do love that about you, and how you live and how we practice, you know, together too, as far as calling and checking in on each other and say, I need an adjustment, or texturing is very fun.

Unknown 27:02

And it is, I mean, I because you know, because of the people that I work with, I will a lot of times say like, Hey, listen, I get where you're coming from, like, I totally get it. And, and I'm the same way. I'm like, sure. Like, I didn't get my exercise in this morning, but I'm gonna get it tonight. And if that means like chasing the ball with my kid around the playground, and like, you know, doing short Sprint's to catch the ball, and, you know, play with him and all that. I'm calling that a win. Yes. No, I mean, athlete.

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That totally counts it.

Unknown 27:39

And that's, I don't know, you don't go for it. But you know, it's, and

Unknown 27:44

I didn't understand this when I was when I was, you know, not a mom.

Unknown 27:50

I was like, okay, you know, do 15 things of this and do you know, whatever. But like, now I know how precious time is that I didn't know before. So like now when I give recommendations to my patients, I'm like, listen to five, if you only know time of, you know, whatever they're doing, like, if you only have like 2.7 minutes, like, take this time for yourself, because you can, you know, you'll realize what a difference it will make. And I have a different appreciation for that now that I did, you know, that I did before? Yeah. So,

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you know, we're just trying to do the best that we can all around in every aspect of our lives. And so, you know, if it is 2.7 minutes, then that's all you got. Exactly. Or if it's you know, you sitting in your car right now recording a podcast Yeah, with me while I sit in my closet, and my kids are watching a movie because my husband's on shift and you're in your car, because that's your only solitude. So there's

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Thanks.

Unknown 28:58

Yeah, no, finding ways to do it. Now, I want to talk about some of the other things that you offer in the office too, because we talked you mentioned nutrition and kind of, I guess it's what I like to call like my pillars of health too. So talking about like that nutrition and exercise and sleep and mindset and stuff, but then you also have some natural handmade products in the office, and then some other organizations, things that you work with, to help women and families too.

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Yeah, so um, I

Unknown 29:31

you know, a lot of a lot of what I what I do is, are things that I like started for myself, then I realized like, oh, maybe this can help out, you know, somebody else kind of thing or start, you know, started for my family or you know, things like that, and then just kind of shared it with people around me.

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was probably

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like seven or eight years ago, I started making some handmade products and

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you

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It just kind of snowballed from there. And I actually have a

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hoping, like, by the end of August, I'm going to have a line of gift boxes that are going to be ready to go, that are going to be basically gift boxes for birth postpartum.

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Like one, well, women's health,

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you know, like, when you're, you know, during your menstrual cycle, when you would want a piece of chocolate and a candle, and somebody, you know, to just leave me alone kind of thing.

Unknown 30:34

That's wonderful. So it's one of things where you're like, I like this, and I use this, let's see, other women probably needed to, yeah, so it's a, it's gonna be a set of curated boxes, and you can buy them for yourself, you can gift them or you know, things like that.

Unknown 30:53

So I'm going to have those coming out, hopefully in the next month and a half.

Unknown 30:59

So I'm really excited about that. And then

Unknown 31:02

my goal in life is to make things easier for myself for my family, and, you know, for my patients, and so, I, and I'm kind of a,

Unknown 31:14

I like clean products, I like things that I don't have to look up the ew g website or the Environmental Working Group all the time. Because,

Unknown 31:25

you know, I want to make sure to stuff that we're using and putting on our skin and putting in our bodies. It's nice and clean. And so I have been doing research on this for entirely too many years. And so, I've teamed up with, you know, companies like beauty counter where I like no interest, their products have been using them for, you know, our whole family and I love sharing about those. You've been using them for a while now, too. So yeah, yeah, so I started using them before, like, anybody knew what beautycounter was. And now they're like, making quite a few waves. And, you know, kind of into general personal care market and the cosmetics market, which is what kind of, you know, but yet is the largest organ. And it's so I mean, that just goes directly into the body into the bloodstream, and we need to be aware of what we're on our bodies. Yeah. And then the laws in the US about what's actually acceptable to be put in those products is like more than laughable. There's like, half a page of law that's written and only about 30 ingredients that are not allowed to be in personal care products. And, like formaldehyde is not one of those 30 ingredients. Felli parabens or any of that are like not even on that list. led

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also is not on that list. Yes. So it's, um, it's kind of tricky. I mean, we, we screen for over 1800 ingredients are not in the beauty counter products. So make sure that we're using like health protective ingredients in the skincare and makeup and everything. So putting in different that peace of mind that, yeah, what they're using. And like you said, it makes it easy. It's simple. It's like, Okay, this is trusted. I've done the research. And there's an easy way to just go ahead and transition the home. Yep, exactly. Exactly. And people I mean, people love that when you know, it's like, you don't have to worry about that you're putting, you know, petroleum byproduct that's in you know,

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petroleum jelly.

Unknown 33:41

Exactly. That sounds beautiful.

Unknown 33:45

Yeah. So it's just, you know, it's just one of those things where it's like one less thing that we have to worry about and shield our kids from and all that kind of stuff. So I love it. And

Unknown 33:59

I want to mention and I want to give a shout out here to where like people could find you and connect with you. But I want to share a little story. I feel like we just kind of about how we met at least this is how I think we met

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because

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let's see, we're we're both part of Georgia birth network. Correct. And so I believe that's how I first found you and your name and then I found you on Instagram. And then I started following you and I was like I really really loved her like just your your vibe, your energy, the colors, the presence, the word you spoke that feeling in the office like everything there was it's just so caring and compassionate, so authentic. It's so real. It's so needed and necessary in our birth worker world and in our motherhood world. And so I remember following you on Instagram and then I've ever seen you at

Unknown 34:58

we both went to life, unity

Unknown 35:00

different times we have to take continuing education classes every year. And I remember seeing you at the fall see at life University, and I was a little like, I follow her on Instagram. She's amazing. And I'm getting to meet her in real life in real life. And that is how we met. For the first time. Yeah. I love hate relationship with Instagram, you know, like, I hate social media. But

Unknown 35:25

I yeah, I was just super, I was, like, starstruck. I was like, Oh my God.

Unknown 35:33

I just love that. So, but that's part of, that's part of this too, as far as you know, finding those mentors and people that you love, and respect and honor and look up to and seeing those type of things. And wanting to exemplify that as well. Like, there's so many, you know, strong female chiropractors that I look up to as well. But I'm so excited that you're, you're close to me.

Unknown 35:55

All the big feelings over here are the big feelings.

Unknown 35:59

So yes, where can people find you because you're on Instagram, and you have a website and all of those things. So go ahead and start listing all that stuff out. Okay, so my website is healthy being wellness, calm. And then I am on Facebook, Instagram, it's all the same handles just held healthy being.

Unknown 36:32

Let me see it like that.

Unknown 37:06

I do a lot of stuff on Instagram really.

Unknown 37:12

Probably like one of my favorites really. And then Facebook, I have a private Facebook group that's open to you know, moms,

Unknown 37:22

just to have a space virtually. And it really kind of has grown over the last

Unknown 37:27

over the last year just because we haven't been able to meet in person. And so now we're gonna go back to kind of meeting in person more. Oh, good. I know. I'm part of your your private group. And I love it because you're always putting out good things and reminders of like, hey, check in on your mental space today. Yes, yes. Yeah, mental health is like a huge piece for me. And so sometimes it's just like, Hey, we're okay. It's gonna be all right. Yes, yes.

Unknown 37:58

So, I just saw my midwife just posted something about

Unknown 38:06

three year olds make as much noise as like a group of 200 people. Yeah. Yeah. And my son is just about to turn four. And I was like, Yeah, yeah, that's completely valid. Living this. Yeah. And she said, four year olds.

Unknown 38:24

20 questions a day. But I'm pretty sure that like I met that by 10 o'clock this morning. So yeah, like, work.

Unknown 38:35

It's like, check it in, check on your friends who have kids, it's just don't get quiet. Yes. And that's what we need. So I love all of those ways that everybody can connect with you. We're going to link everything in the show notes too. So it'll be easy for everybody to get to all those things in the find you and to follow you and to reach out and ask questions. I was so excited to talk to you today. I'm excited to talk to you again, though, because coming up in the part two, I really want to dive a little bit more deeper into the birth story that you have, how that unfolded, and then looking into how you know motherhood has really impacted your practice and then what you have seen change in the office too. So again, thank you so so much for joining me today. Dr. Tiana. Thank you for having me.